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After One Year of DAB-Only, Switzerland Reverts to FM: The Important Considerations of the RSI Director

Edited by Marco H. Barsotti

We return once again to the major U-turn by the Swiss Confederation regarding the decision to abandon FM. We do so—at the risk of appearing repetitive—because a publication named “FM” world cannot fail to give due space to the real data and to a sort of moral that comes from an important interview.

Counter-order, comrades

It is unnecessary to repeat to FM-world readers the news: counter-order, comrades—as one would have said in the last century—analog FM is being switched back on. Which had been in the process of being phased out with apparent satisfaction from many in Europe, who saw Switzerland (and Norway even earlier) as an example to follow.

An agreement from 2014

It is worth rereading a sentence from the official press release in the article published on December 11, 2025 on the RSI website which seems significant to us: “With the decision to abandon FM by the end of 2024, the SSR had respected the agreement concluded over ten years ago with the radio sector and with the Confederation“. An agreement between politicians and “the sector”, meaning those who broadcast. In other words, listeners are missing, as if they had nothing to do with this choice. An observation, this one, that should not be read as criticism of Switzerland, but rather as a general consideration that concerns all States where these choices are made. Citizens, those who pay the license fee or endure advertising, seem to be the least important component in many choices that concern them.

Interesting numbers

Let’s move on to some interesting numbers. We read in the press release dated December 9, 2025 issued by the Swiss private radio association ASRP: After the switch-off, SSR programs recorded sharp drops in listening, up to 49%. Furthermore, over 100,000 listeners switched to foreign FM stations.

Official data

Data perhaps exaggerated, but Newslinet, a source extremely attentive to factuality, reported in July 2025 the following: After the FM switch-off of the public broadcaster SRG which occurred on 12/31/2024, a drop in audience was recorded (–470,000 listeners), with SRF 1 down to 23% of share and SRF 3 to 11.2%.”

Minus 470,000 out of what?

The article does not say, so we had to search on the Mediapulse website—an entity whose top executives we interviewed in the past—finding the following: “the offer of linear radio stations in the first half of 2025 reached 5.2 million listeners per day“.

Let’s try the division: 470,000/5,200,000 = 0.0903, or -9%

Now, in the SSR press release titled “The SSR will abandon FM at the end of the year” published on June 26, 2024, it read: “The percentage of those who still use FM exclusively continues to stand at less than 10%. A simplistic conclusion would therefore be that all those who listened to radio on FM simply switched media. (since 9% is very close to 10%). But if we believe the SRP data—which when citing a -49% does not indicate its source—things would have gone even worse. In our opinion, the SRP data, if correct, would indicate that the estimate of 10% residual FM listeners was not accurate. But we eagerly await comments and opinions from the many industry professionals numerous among the readers of this publication and the Talkmedia social channel.

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A loss that hurts public and private

In closing, we would like to draw attention to a sentence from RSI director Mario Timbal who, with a typically Swiss intellectual honesty, when asked Being the pioneer and switching off FM first was a mistake?” responded with a consideration of utmost interest, which we report in full:

It was certainly a mistake to take as definitive the agreement that the SSR had stipulated with private radios and the Confederation, where the pioneer role went in favor of private radios. Therefore, by going before the others, we would have helped the public to transition, limiting the listening losses of private radios. Now everything changes, we return and it is clear that there is a side where one gets both the damage and the mockery: the loss of listeners that we have suffered hurts the entire Swiss radio system, because some of the listeners did not transition to private networks but also to foreign networks. Therefore, in a landscape where linear listening radio already has a natural decline in these years, this is added and worsens it

Cui Prodest?

One question remains that we have often asked in past interviews without getting an answer: while switching off analog TV made sense, considering that the same approximately 390 MHz were reused (the frequencies between 471 and 860 MHz of UHF), it seems to us that no one has found a good use for the mere 20 MHz that constitute the FM band. Certainly not useful to telcos, the richest buyers of frequencies, as one of the best Italian popularizers explained to us back in 2022. Switching off not to make room for other services but to leave emptiness. Or space for foreigners.

Nothing to do, we really cannot understand the obstinacy of politicians in demanding the switch-off of FM without letting it die when consumers decide. (M.H.B. for FM-world)

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Mario Chiavalin (Heddy Media): “We have relaunched MC2 Radio in the spirit of continuity, with great ambitions and surprises

After a brief pause that raised fears of closure, MC2 is back with great ambitions and significant updates, thanks to the passion and commitment of Mario Chiavalin, COO of Heddy Media. Inevitably – also considering our previous Amarcord – we interviewed him to understand what future awaits a radio that truly stands out in the Italian and global landscape. And there’s no shortage of bombshell news.

Heddy Media

Mario will introduce himself during the interview, but first, here’s how the Heddy Media group describes itself on LinkedIn:

Heddy Media is an innovative ecosystem operating in the world of communication and entertainment, embracing television, radio, publishing, and on-demand streaming. Our mission is to offer high-quality content, valuing creativity and technological innovation to reach an increasingly broad and diverse audience.

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The Interview

FM-world (Marco Hugo Barsotti): Let’s start with a brief introduction of yourself and then of Heddy Media.

Mario Chiavalin: I am Mario Chiavalin, COO – or operations director, if we want to say it in English – of Heddy Media.

Heddy Media is a group that includes several film production companies – we are finalizing a movie – various publishing outlets, and also radio. We started with Radio Sanremo, then Radio Venezia, and now we are activating DAB in Veneto for Radio Venezia, while Radio Sanremo will expand to other regions.

We Weren’t Wrong

FM-world: What happened with MC2?

M.C.: We received the news from one of our journalists at our publishing outlets. They informed us and put us in contact with Alberto Hazan.

FM-world: Sorry, what news exactly?

M.C.: That MC2 was about to close. So your news wasn’t wrong: Hazan, rather than selling it to someone who would have changed its essence, preferred to shut it down.

The intention was therefore to cease its broadcasts. However, after long meetings, discussing our philosophy – because the mood of MC2 is exceptional for us and its excellent ratings prove it – we reached an agreement.

We finalized it in a few days: every day a radio is off air is an additional problem, as you lose listeners.

Hazan

FM-world: Why had Hazan decided to close it, thus exiting the radio world?

M.C.: In reality, he hasn’t completely exited: he will stay with us as a consultant and probably also as a partner. It’s an idea that came up after we got to know each other better.

We concluded the agreement very quickly: we turned the radio back on, reactivated the app and servers, even though it was the week of Ferragosto. By the way, MC2 also broadcasts on digital terrestrial, I don’t know if you noticed.

FM-world: Even here in the French Riviera, from Monte Carlo, we receive it in DAB…

M.C.: In Monte Carlo, we are on FM. Then we are also in the Canaries, in Tenerife, etc., in DAB and on all platforms.

FM-world: FM in Monte Carlo? To us, it’s on DAB.

M.C.: Alberto told me FM, but I can verify the details. In any case, the great thing about MC2 is that it offers 20 thematic channels: everyone can choose the music they prefer, always of the highest quality.

Local vs Global

FM-world: Why MC2 specifically? It’s a global radio, while the others in the group seem very tied to a specific territory.

M.C.: Radio Venezia was a historic station in the city, the same goes for Radio Sanremo. But let me clarify: we didn’t take over Radio Venezia, which had closed and sold its frequencies to another station with a different project. We requested and obtained authorization from the Ministry to start a new Radio Venezia in DAB.

FM-world: Okay, very clear… almost. Let’s say, though, that the two brands have names tied to a city, while MC2 is a global radio.

M.C.: In reality, all three have meaning. Venice is known worldwide, so Radio Venezia also has an international connotation.

Radio Sanremo remains more regional, but it will be developed with the same principle as MC2, creating a bouquet of channels that will showcase Italian music, probably divided by time slots or genres. Today, radio must allow everyone to choose what to listen to, not impose a single schedule: the system is changing.

FM-world: You’ve decided to invest in a prestigious brand. It’s a significant investment, but MC2 currently has no advertising. Do you think it can be profitable?

M.C.: For us, MC2 has strategic value within the overall digital platform. There will be advertising, but it won’t be traditional: it will be international and selective. For example, someone wanting to advertise fruit and vegetables won’t advertise on MC2, regardless of their budget.

MC2 News and MC2 Sport

FM-world: So you’ll introduce moderate, high-level advertising to make it sustainable.

M.C.: Exactly. Plus, to the 20 existing channels, we’ll add four more. We’re organizing MC2 News and MC2 Sport, which will maintain the same mood: no crime news, but significant geopolitical, economic, and cultural news.

FM-world: Doing news means having editors, so higher costs…

M.C.: We already have agreements with professionals you know well, but I’d prefer to announce them only after the launch.

FM-world: In Hazan’s days, a powerful analog FM from Monte Agel (93.2) could be heard as far as St. Tropez, often on the “cool” beaches, so to speak…

M.C.: We’re already reactivated in Monte Carlo.

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Funky Poetz

FM-world: A question about the music. They call them “Music Designers,” those who choose and maybe mix the music. I don’t know if they also design it, perhaps they do. In any case, those who set the musical direction: at MC2, they were big names, some shared with Monte Carlo 1 back in the day, because the ownership was the same. Do you plan to keep this structure? Will you bring in new people?

M.C.: Yes, we’ll integrate the staff with new figures, but Stefano Carboni will remain as supervisor and Dado for the artistic part. Hazan himself will continue to contribute: he has extraordinary experience, greater than mine.

FM-world: Well, he started at Lorenteggio with 105, like 50 years ago…

M.C.: Yes, yes, he started with Studio 105 in ’76.

This Ferragosto, we spoke almost every day. I think he chose us precisely because he saw a continuity of thought, which is fundamental for him. MC2 was one of his most beloved creations: not by chance, it wasn’t sold to Mediaset, and that might have annoyed someone.

Concessions

FM-world: But aren’t the Monte Carlo Network brands owned by Hazan and Frateschi?

M.C.: Yes, they are licensed by Monte Carlo Network. Radio Monte Carlo 1 is licensed to Mediaset, MC2 to us. The license always remains with Monte Carlo Network, not Mediaset.

FM-world: Good, so no issues.

M.C.: Exactly, and honestly, it would be like a flea against an elephant: it’s amusing to think of potential conflicts.

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Distribution

FM-world: So, to summarize, can we say you’ll be on FM, DAB, and digital terrestrial?

M.C.: FM in Monte Carlo, DAB in the Canaries. For the French Riviera, we’re evaluating DAB: we have three authorizations and could broadcast in limited areas, perhaps in Northern Italy. Meanwhile, in Italy, we’re on channel 235 of digital terrestrial, in HbbTV with access to all twenty channels of the bouquet.

FM-world: Are you also planning local initiatives?

M.C.: Absolutely. We aim to improve distribution with as many channels as possible and will be present at major events – Fashion Week, Film Festival, and others – with dedicated spaces, let’s call them “kiosks,” to give visibility and strengthen the mood of MC2.

(Interview by Marco Hugo Barsotti for FM-world)